Wednesday 12 December 2018

Forgiving the offender

Wednesday 12, 12, 2018

Friday 14, 2018 updated
First thing is that the subject of forgiveness can be a sensitive touchy one. When the Apostle Peter asked Jesus the messiah should you forgive seven times and he told Peter to forgive seven times 77 which means always.  There is a bible verse where the lord said that if your brother offend you and repent seven times in a day you must forgive him.  There are many bible verses about forgiveness in which if you don't forgive God won't forgive you.  We have to stress that the heart is abundantly wicked and evil.  Many people don't understand what is the cross and what it means to bear it.  Many people understand pagan traditions but they don't understand the gospel.  There are those that have been brainwashed with religion and tradition and they are told to say in some cases they understand everything and they know everything but they are ignorant to true religion undefiled as Christ taught it.  Yes some of these people have a reprobate mind and they have cultist indulgences into those things that are evil and an abomination to God so they are really lost and always in their sins.  While they hear they perceive not and they understand not.  I know a person that had prayers for the dead and despite explaining the gospel to them they think that their understanding of religion is superior and correct when in fact they have been misled all of their lives.  When talking about forgiveness why get into this in this way?  Because people are led astray and there are those who were under the impression that while one is religious they are saved and good even while indulging in sins that are an abomination to God.  They have been misled by cunning men.  They don't know that they are on the highway to damnation what ever that means most likely being age lasting gospel speaking. Their outlook on life is via-led with such people.

Just like anything else you can forgive somebody over and over and it is just a waste of time.  Like spending money on an old car with a bottomless pit.  You have to apply logic and common sense to whatever the situation is.  There are some people you could forgive countless times and it does absolutely no good at all.  It might make YOU feel better but be a total waste. Don't give to dogs what is holy. For example imagine if you were working somewhere and you were late every day in spite of being warned from your employer and that employer lost productivity because of your arrogance and careless behavior.  Despite a few forgiveness actions on the part of your employer and you confessing that you will start to be on time now but your words are not backed up with action and in fact the reality is harsh because you really don't care and you take advantage of people.  You have some other agenda! There are people out there with the intent and the words that harshly hurt people and sometimes they need to be punished.  If you read some of those bible stories about certain people or even Israel that was warned by God through prophets yet they did not listen and later they were punished for their lack of regard you could see a simple forgiveness would have been a waste.  It's like a young man squandering his money and wasting it.  Out of the sincerity of your heart you can forgive people but you have to remember there are people that couldn't care less and your forgiveness would just be a waste of time and effort.  You would hope that people would seek forgiveness but I've known people while they might even help you in some ways that are very wicked.  People are judgmental.  When somebody says to you we always liked each other be suspicious.  It does not have to be spelled out if it were true as you know in your heart the truth.  Somebody might tolerate you and all of the while they stab you in the back.  Matter fact there was a song called back stabbers.  Reality is quite different than wishful thinking.  A good intent is a good intent  but a wicked heart and a deceitful heart is entirely different.  Many people are under the impression just because somebody has a lot of material possessions they are good and of God. It does not mean they know God or that they even are good people.  I've known people that ridicule people every time you see them and they are seen by others as good when in fact they are a menace to you and they take all of the opportunity's to insult and belittle people.  And it's funny that many times those characters are known even to others and as you could just overlook it they will continue to belittle you and think they are superior to you.  Take a woman who was raped and she goes to court and she is blamed for something that might not have not been her fault and she is scrutinized repeatedly and made a mockery and that makes it more painful to go through that trial than the actual rape itself.  It's easy to tell somebody just forgive everybody but each situation might be different and require some common sense which many people throw out the window.  There are people out there that believe compounded lies about a person and there are people that spread these lies and this hurts the reputation and a good standing of a person.  I've known people that the gossip about other people started from their youth well into their fifties and never changes.  While many of the people would gossip about people that are no longer in their youth and now are married and have moved on years ago. They still are pondering over things that were in their youth.  It's almost like deprived minds that get off the gossip and that makes them self justified. It's wickedness and sin period. Many of these people are pride filled and arrogant.

Believe it or not while I was keen understanding certain deep things in my youth the evil of people's hearts is much more profound than I could have ever imagined.  God showed me how wicked people truly are. Jesus Christ understood this.  He said what de-files a man is what he speaks and many times how they hurt other people with their tongue.  With their toxic tongue.  In one breath they may help somebody and another murder them with their mouth to other people and be-little them.  You could say why is there such deep rooted evil in the world and think why would a loving God allow such evil.  I will have you know that God is absolutely realHell is a real place despite those who will tell you that it does not exist.  Why would a loving father in heaven create hell?  Because he is loving and such profound evil despite God been merciful when it cares not and takes delight in its own wickedness unrepentant when such people that delight in such ungodliness when they pass they will find out what God spoke through his prophets exists and is real.  Just look at the near death experiences of people who seen hell and even people that were nonbelievers that made a complete turnaround which should tell you that there needs to be a repentance and recognition of wrongdoing.  


Why do you suppose Christ would have called the Pharisees of their father the devil?  Because they shut up the kingdom of heaven for people for their own gain.  Same scenario in many cases in this fallen world. When you forgive and you bless it's most likely you'll receive a blessing.  You'll always have a prayer and that relationship to the eternal God.  It's like a pardon that a country might give to a criminal and we would hope that it is appreciated.  But there are those who would not appreciate but they would want it.  There are those who would appreciate it.  You have to apply logic to it.  Sometimes in some cases you forgive repeatedly and it seems to flow but there are other times when you do it over and over and down the road sometimes, perhaps years later you realize these people and their intent is only to mock you and belittle you to others while they spread rumors that are untrue and perceive things about you that are totally bogus.  There have been times I had been warned by people of such people and despite my overlooking things and going with the flow it caused repeated trouble with other people as these lies you could say of the devil never cease as these people are really wicked people with a wicked intent and underlying motives of evil.  It's almost like putting money into a bottomless pit where you end up broke and all that effort seems to go nowhere.  It's easy for people to tell other people to just forgive.  

If many employers rewarded the ignorance of those employees that treated their customers badly and they lost business and maybe wind up out of business because they were not good in business that would be bad management.  You have to manage your affairs.  I was/am a very forgiving person and people perceive you sometimes in a way as others will de-file you to them and you won't understand why they have this thinking of you.  Sometimes your own parents could have been the culprits.  You know you hear about the criminals that were lacking remorse.  There are those criminals or you can call them offenders might get out and repeat over and over the evil in their heart.  This is yet one reason a loving God created hell.  So we could just simply say just forgive everybody and in many cases it will be just fire been put on fire.  What! In rare cases it will just make room for the wicked person to repeat their wickedness to you as they are given a get out of jail free card. There are droves of people that are abundantly wicked just like in the day of Noah these days and it was written that it would be so and it is!.  The flood came and took them all away as God brought his judgment on the world in those days.  The sad thing is that people don't understand what Christ said about your words where your mouth has the power of life and death.  They may perceive that he was saying that you could lose a relationship by your words.  Yes in a sense but that is not what he was saying.  What he was saying is when you murder people with your mouth and your tongue you just might end up in hell's fire.  Sure there will be crying and gnashing of teeth later on judgment day because Christs Angels  will be instructed to gathered together the Tars and cast away into the fire.  I'm sorry and all the crying won't help because God known your thoughts and he knows your acting and actual intent. Some people who are abundantly wicked in their heart could care less.  



You know people have their own stories.  I remember going into my friends' home and if some uncle or friend insulted them I've seen their parents caution them and in some cases tells those people to leave because they cared not about their children.  In my own family sometimes people deeply insulted me, and if I replied my parents did not kick those people out or say anything.  They'd tolerate it and because they did that those people were given a red flag/ticket to come back into the home and do it again and again over the years.  And these types of parents totally overlook their own wicked hearts while they think they are good.  You see why the bible says that our goodness is a bag of dirt to God.  People wonder why if they die in their sins  the will they perish.  You know why because the lord demands repentance and a turning from that offense , and believing on his "only" gotten son.  For some people even with a good heart they may have lives which might be nothing but pain.  Christ was a man well acquainted with sorrows. This is why we are not to put our attention and mind on carnal things.  We must for one live in the spirit and not by the flesh. We are told in the gospel we are to renew our mind as everything is made new under Christ. We are to walk with the lord.  Pick up your + cross and walk with the lord. This is done because the world rejected Christ and his gospel message and love it's own.  They want rewards with half forgiveness or none at all while many become full of the food that Christ might have given them, but they couldn't care less of a righteousness/repentance demanded by a living God. They are but actors in a play! loving all the wicked ways of the world in many cases.


 They say Christ always forgave as when he drew his last breath on that cross and said forgive them for they know not what they do.  Some shouted crucify him! Evil hearts! God knows our hearts and the bible says he searches our minds/hearts.  That means when an evil intent is there and gossip be present there is no fooling the lord.  You ONLY fool yourselves in that manner.  So it's easy to forgive but it does not mean it will be effective.  Sure you extend mercy as God does and sometimes you do it for yourselves but it doesn't mean that might not be just a waste of effort/time.  There have been very evil people in history and all the talk in the world, and all the forgiving in the world would not have accomplished anything whatsoever.  There are people that are dark and evil.  There are others that are under the impression that everybody is reachable with the gospel.  Really! So why does Satan not turn and become good again? Because he was a murder from the beginning. Some people have only dark black in their character and they are unreachable by man. Some people are pure evil! These things exist but we so easily think just forgive them and love them.  There needs to be remorse.  There needs to be repentance if a person is capable to understand these things.  Look at the bible stories where God brought his destruction on entire peoples because they were evil in their hearts as Sodom and Gomorrah.  You have to apply logic to whatever the situation is. Lets hope these wicked people can be reached with the gospel as it is well worth the effort as it s the word of God which never returns void.

Now if we turn it around and look at it a different way in the example of bad employers who defile their employees.  There are many articles on such which references bad bosses.  In some cases I've experienced this myself.  Proving it is another matter entirely and in some cases I've done it.  We live in a fallen world as they say.  But there are those that don't see it as they just see it as life and the game of life. Some employers have recycled jobs and they get rid of people every three months when they will start to earn their benefits. Not all do this but this exists. It hurts the reputation of the employee because he/she will be looked at like they changes jobs often. Many people change their mask but inside they are wicked.  


BELOW IMAGES

See a little leaven leavens the whole load. We are not perfect but GOD is! A white lie may not send you to hell when you are under the messiah's blood and the cross but teaching a false gospel and believing what God never meant to will direct you path away from Christ's narrow door. God (I AM) could have forgiven Israel without repentance but it would of been unfounded and unjust. There needed to be acknowledgment of sin and turning back/redirection to his statutes and ways and repentance. Forgiveness is good but there are times it is not justified/wrong timing. It depends on the situation at hand of course and the proper course of action.


Forgiveness is one thing and deprived minds are another.  Ever hear when people say some people just don't change.  That's very true.  Some people are content with their evil little selves.  So many songs are written and in the charts with a singer singing about how he will be better than the other guy just because he wants the girl.  He might be overwhelmed, be young and impressed with her looks or even her character.  In real life many times he will be even worse than the other guy he is singing about.  I'm sure the odd time it might be true that he might treat somebody better than another person.  How many broken heart songs are there?  Because people are wicked.  People cheat! Christ came to redeem and seek and save that which was lost.  So forgiveness is a good thing and blessing people that curse you is a command by the lord himself.  When people curse you they are indulging in spiritual darkness and in the ac-ult.  One day when they pass they just might find themselves in Hellfire because of what they did and then they will understand what they were doing with their tongue.  They were wishing evil on people and murdering them with their mouth and their gossip, ignorance and hate.  But they never see their own evil and wicked hearts but they are fully naked to God.  Many times they think their good.  Their good is absolutely no good at all and many times they just might be on the way to destruction.  I'm referring to hell. It is real and God cannot lie.

So yes forgive people but you must apply common sense based on the situation.  You have to count the cost.  What effect will it have.  Will it do any good and is this the right time? What if the Jewish people forgave Hitler while he was doing that evil back in the day? Wrong timing!  We need to ask what type of situation is this we're talking about.  There needs to be questions asked and sometimes these things require cutting off of that situation.  The gospel says to forgive but in some cases it also tells us to stay away from such and God will receive us. The gospel tells us while we are in the world we are not to be a part of it and indulge in its wickedness.  We are told we are to keep our garments clean and be ready for the lord's return.  Back at the ranch there is always somebody that perceives not despite the cautions while they are content in their deceived/deprived state of minds and while they say they see they perceive not and are living a lie and only are part of the problem and not the solution.  Remember Christ said that Satan comes right away to steal that seed and many fall by the wayside.  This is the absolute truth.  The lord said that in a lifetime few people will find the door to his kingdom.  Few!!! He said preach the kingdom.  But at the same time few will find that door which is indeed narrow.  


Today you have to make a decision as Christ had nowhere to lay his head and when you tell people that they don't really understand as their vision of good is tarnished from what truly is acceptable to God and they really don't perceive as they are blind.  The truth is light came into the world just as the gospel says it did but men's hearts perceived darkness.  If you only could see that demonic world you would understand not as it would be a total shock and perhaps scare you. Christ understood this.  A man who doesn't surrender to Christ in his lifetime is like a man who never lived.  Sometimes I remember in the gospel where it says and speaks about  blessing an idol and believe it or not there are people that live this way but they themselves don't even see it for what it is.  Some people are reprobate and have a wicked heart.  They are stubborn to even acknowledge the biblical truth. You have to apply logic and understanding to whatever situation it is.  I mean you could have an old car with an engine that is blown and you spend a lot of money to make the body of that vehicle look beautiful.  Many people look beautiful on the outside but inside they are full of men's dead bones.  That reference was from Christ himself.  God knows the evil and who they truly are and how they murder people with their mouths and with intent.  He called the Pharisees the children of their father of the devil and those who killed the prophets.  So what does that tell you?  That there are some people that are evil and in many cases perhaps money worshipers, perhaps opportunists and even devil worshipers.  There are those that have nothing and wish they had something and there are those that have the world but no soul and no remorse.  Oh yes hell exists.  You know Christ said that his father which the world knows not has hid certain things and only revealed them to babes.  Why?  Because the heart is abundantly wicked and entering his Kingdom you have to be as little children.  So next time you forgive apply logic to it and if it's done over and over and over again and accomplishes nothing then something is wrong.  Why would this be?  Because some people are abundantly wicked all the days of their lives and this is why Christ came into the world to seek and save the lost.  I have to caution you that there are those who don't feel their lost and they don't even know their lost while others have been found by Christ they are always lost and lovers of the flesh. Many indulging is the abomination that is of their religious state of mind. In other words their understanding of the gospel is shallow/veiled and they perceive vanity instead of understand why Christ had nowhere to lay his head. He is risen now. Give HIM praise! Many have a a violent reaction to the word of God. Then there are the none believers that think people came about from evolution. Bogus lie of the devil!

Someone said to me if you want to show somebody you found the lord live it and be the example but I will tell you if you're preaching to people that are lost and follow some other Christ and some other gospel many times that will have absolutely no bearing at all.  They are reprobate! Deceived for centuries in some cases as their parents were too. STUCK in their deceived ways despite all the education in the world. 


Jesus Christ said go town to town and preach the gospel to his disciples/Apostles and told them if that town rejects you shake the dust off your shoes and move on as it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah on the day of judgment than that town.  The gospel references that many will say to Christ on that day of judgment that they did this and that in his name and he will profess to them that they are workers of in-equity and he knows them not.  It stresses that there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.  Why?  Because the heart is abundantly wicked and refuses to keep God's commandments, and I am referring to Biblical Commandments. God's doctrine and not mans. But such people don't refuse to keep their own traditions and to do those abominable things that defiles their own souls.  They have time for many things but not the gospel or God's gospel truth. That is the profound truth which many can not digest.

Forgive and the lord will forgive you.  When people curse you bless them.  When people judge you unfairly as they may have been given a false understanding or impression of your lives remember they will be judged themselves for their own tarnishing of others.  Christ said judge not.  The bible tells us to use righteous judgment.  But Christ said condemn not.  Many people gossip, condemned and murder with their tongues.  There have been those in which myself I have confronted and while they might appear better the next day they don't change and they don't know God.  I know somebody in my own family that professes that they believe God but when I read his words they called it silly and stupid.  They hate it! It offends them! You could say narrow minded or you could say wicked heart or better yet as Christ said to the apostles you being evil give good things to your children then how much more will God give to you when you ask.  You see he even told the rich man there is not even one who is good as only the father in heaven is good.  So next time you forgive make sure it is just not wasted time on a situation that is just wishful thinking.  You have to apply logic to this situation and do time.  You could say you forgive somebody but the result is absolutely zero all of the time.  You could forgive the many ways possible and it might do absolutely no good if there is no remorse or repentance on their part.  People could say they believe in God without really believing. Sure it might lift a burden of your shoulder but is it just fantasy and wishful thinking.  


To climax the lord said unless a person is innocent as a little child in no like way will they enter the kingdom of God.  Do people really understand what this means?  I would hope so but this world loves its own.  This is why it is written if the world loves you make yourself an enemy of the living God.  Some say forgiven and forget.  You have to apply logic and common sense when you forgive people.  There are times it will be a negative effect and there are times it will appear as if it worked but it failed.  But then later the shock might come when you find out all of the while the river flowed which means life went on without any change. Referring to what I am speaking/writing about here.  So sad in some cases.  Evil in many respects.

+ How many of us are really willing to pick up our cross and follow the lord.  What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit their own soul.  You know what that means that hell fire is a real place because Jesus Christ is real and Israel is the apple of God's eye. His WILL shall be done but man deceives while he is bound by God's mercy and grace and time period. Are you saved?  Do you know the gospel and that a loving God sent his only begotten son into the world so you could be saved? It's VERY true. Many are deceived.  Turn to God today. 





Here is  NOT such a LUKE-WARM preaching on this subject.

FORGIVENESS OF OFFENDERS



Here is a reading (Short) from scripture. A reading from scripture and how God commanded Israel but they went astray. Referenced to forgiveness. 





Now here is yet another sermon from today about peace & forgiveness. People talk about peace. I mean because someone preaches a solid gospel in these end days they will see that as not love and not peace. People wrap their deceptive hearts around a false sense of security and then justify it. It depends on the situation and timing. The devil is NOT PEACE. Keeping your sins under the umbrella of paganism and a white lie gospel wise is not peace but deception.The peace that defies all understanding can only comes from the righteousness of a living God and by his hand.





Here is a blog looking at peace in regards to forgiveness. The blog is called
Peace in conjunction to forgiveness.
https://word66.blogspot.com/2018/12/peace-in-conjunction-to-forgiveness.html

May you be blessed and walk with the lord.

Amen



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